To the death of Saddam and 2006!

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  my utterances posted 2 yrs ago

 
The year 2006 ended with Saddam Hussein being burried in Tikrit.

The debate would go on about the fairness of his trial and the death penalty that was preordained.
 
While watching a documentry on the History Channel I came to know that he first killed a man at the age of 10 years...and so on.
 
My father says whatever he was, He was India's friend. And as a nation, that should be the basis of expressing our views on his death.

His actions can not be judged putting on the US glasses.

America has always put forth its own interests first and foremost.
Americans could get lucky in Saddam's case.
Let us see if they would manage to get their hands on Osama too.
 
2007 ...............or 2017....God only knows.
 
I read some one in the US making a comment that "we chose a good day According to Islamic calender) for him to hang him and burry him; Saddam would get forgivness from Allah for all his sins."
 
You can not expect less callousness from any American, for any non-American.
 
Let Allah or God decide who was right and who wrong, and then forgiveness (or reward) would follow.
The Bible also talks of the Judgement Day.

SO, Bush would might aso be seen following Saddam, sooner or later.
 
 



  jphilip posted 2 yrs ago

Reading blogg and its many comments, it appears Saddam had an eventful life till his last breath.
The crimes he committed is related to his time, sorounding political and personal situations.
Most rulers in the middleeast are no worse than him.
Clinton was impeached for lying under oath for the affair with Monica Levensky.
Is WMD a bigger lie under oath by George Bush ? Is American foriegn policy has any value or principles, or just business like?
Did Americans unduly influence Saddam trial?
Who is the bigger crimanal, George Bush or Saddam?
Was Saddam treated at his trial as a politician or as an individual, was it fair?
Joseph
 



  swarajya posted 2 yrs ago

Hitler , Stalin,Idi Amin and many others might have killed more people than Saddam Hussain. But they were not put in gallows.I admire the guts of the dictator who faced Americans like  a lion.Anyway a dictator takes the risk of his autocracy and  prepares himself  for the worst .It is a pity that his own people let him down.India has rightly expressed its sentiments on hisdeath.
A good article which proves that tha law of nature works in its own way.



  TheBigThinkg Blog posted 2 yrs ago

Dear AmiTex,
Thanx for ur comments. But I would not agree with you.
 
What Saddam was, i am sure u would have no idea except for what u read from western media sources. There are several dimensions to truth.
 
Iraq's want democracry or dictatorship is something that Iraqi's decide better not Bush on behalf of them. Hence this talk of death of tyrant and people celebrating it is wrong.
 
BTW, Iraq war was never started to get rid of Saddam or dictatorship. It was started for WMD. It was airbrushed as an exercise in democracy with full support of BBC, CNN and other media outlets, once it was clear that WMD was the figment of imagination of Ahmed Chalabi and his INC.
 
The entire Shia and Sunni Schism in the current context of Iraq, I suspect, is the handiwork of American Intelligence. I think it should have been done to blunt the focus of Sunni insurgency on U.S. troops.
 
This is the same method our KPS Gill adopted to break the Sikh insurgency by fanning the divisions between Bapu and Bania Sikhs.
 
In the case of U.S., it has back-fired. As the former Iraqi Information minister said, U.S. has become a large Snake, being bitten into pieces by various insurgents of various hues.
 
Hence this talk of Sunni's happy on Shite's demise in Iraq is wrong. In a broader middle-east, there is the tension between Shiite Iran and the sunni majority. Currently U.S. is fighting the proxy battle for Iran foolishly.
 
There is nothing in these for anybody to rejoice about.  We need to learn our lessons from these and be wary of such ideologically driven people like Bush, Blair and Osama Bin Laden, who all belong to the same gene  pool.
 
-TBT



  Ami Tex posted 2 yrs ago

Yahoo! News

Full Coverage: Saddam Hussein

Iraqi Shiites hail Saddam's execution

AP - 1 minute ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis awoke Saturday to television images of a noose being slipped over Saddam Hussein's neck and his white-shrouded body, the pre-dawn work of black-hooded hangmen.

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  Ami Tex posted 2 yrs ago

Yahoo! News
 
Dictator oppressed Iraq for decades

 

By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
 
Sat Dec 30, 2:05 PM ET
Within days of taking power,
Saddam Hussein summoned about 400 top officials and announced he had uncovered a plot against the ruling party. The conspirators, he said, were in that very room. As the 42-year-old
Saddam coolly puffed on a cigar, names of the supposed plotters were read out. As each name
was called, secret police led them away. Twenty-two people were executed.
To make sure Iraqis got the word, Saddam videotaped the entire proceeding and distributed
copies across the country.
 
The plot claim was a lie. But in a few terrifying minutes on July 22, 1979, Saddam eliminated his potential rivals, consolidating the power he wielded until the Americans and their allies drove him from office a generation later.
 
Saddam, who was hanged Saturday at age 69, ruled Iraq with singular ruthlessness.
No one was safe.
 
His two sons-in-law were killed on Saddam's orders after they defected to
Jordan but returned in 1996 after receiving guarantees of safety.
 
Such brutality kept him in power through war with Iran, defeat in Kuwait, rebellions by northern
Kurds and southern Shiite Muslims, international sanctions, plots and conspiracies.
 
In the end, however, brutality was his undoing. Trusting few except kin, Saddam surrounded
himself with sycophants, selected for loyalty rather than intellect and ability.
 
And when he was forced out in April 2003, he left a country impoverished — despite vast oil
wealth — and roiling with long suppressed ethnic and sectarian hatred.
 
He ended up dragged from a hole by American soldiers in December 2003, bearded,
disheveled and with his arms in the air.
Image and illusion were important tools for Saddam.He sought to build an image as an
all-wise, all-powerful champion of the Arab nation.
 
His model was the great 12th century warrior Saladin. He promoted the illusion of a powerful
Iraq— with the world's fourth largest army and weapons of terrible destruction.
 
Yet it was all hollow. His army crumbled when confronted by the Americans and their allies in
Kuwait in 1991.
 
And in 2003, his capital fell to a single U.S. brigade task force.
Saddam's weapons of mass destruction proved a bluff to keep the Iranians, the Syrians, the
Israelis— and the Americans— at bay.
 
He squandered vast sums on opulent palaces— a universe from the harsh poverty into which
he was born on April 28, 1937, in the village of Ouja near Tikrit. His father died or disappeared
before he was born. His stepfather treated Saddam harshly.
 

The young Saddam ran away as a boy and lived with his maternal uncle, Khairallah Talfah, a stridently anti-British, anti-Semitic man whose daughter, Sajida, would become Saddam's wife.

Under his uncle's influence, Saddam joined the Baath Party, a radical, secular Arab nationalist organization, at age 20. A year later, he fled to Egypt after taking part in an attempt to assassinate
the country's ruler, Gen. Abdul-Karim Qassim, and was sentenced to death in absentia.
 
Saddam returned four years later after Qassim was overthrown by the Baath. But the Baath leadership was itself ousted within eight months and Saddam was imprisoned. He escaped in
1967 and took charge of the underground Baath party's secret internal security organization.
He swore he would never tolerate the internal dissent that he blamed for the party losing power.
In July 1968, Baath returned to power under the leadership of Gen. Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr, who appointed Saddam, his cousin, as his deputy. Saddam systematically purged key party figures, deported thousands of Shiites of Iranian origin, supervised the state takeover of Iraq's oil industry, land reform and modernization.
Al-Bakr decided in 1979 to seek unity with neighboring Syria, whose president would become al-Bakr's deputy, and Saddam would be marginalized. Saddam forced his cousin to resign — and
then purged his rivals. Hundreds in the party and army were executed.

Saddam then turned his attention to the country's Shiite majority, whose clerical leaders had long opposed his secular policies. Saddam's fears of a Shiite challenge rose after Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini seized power in Shiite-dominated Iran in 1979.
 
On Sept. 22, 1980, Iraqi troops crossed the Iranian border, launching a war that would last
eight years, cost hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides, and devastate Saddam's plans
to transform Iraq into a developed, prosperous country.
After the Iranians counterattacked, Saddam turned to the United States, France and Britain for weapons, which those countries gladly sold him to prevent an outright Iranian victory. They turned
a blind eye when Saddam ruthlessly struck against Iraqi Kurds, who lived in the border area and
were dealing secretly with the Iranians.
 
An estimated 5,000 Kurds died in a chemical weapons attack on the town of Halabja in March
1988. The United States suggested at the time that the Iranians might have been responsible.
 
Only two years after making peace with Iran, Saddam invaded Kuwait, whose rulers had
refused to forgive Iraq's war debt and opposed increases in oil prices that Iraq desperately
needed to recover from the conflict with Iran. United Nations imposed economic sanctions on
Iraq and a U.S.-led coalition attacked. On Iraqi radio on Jan. 17, 1991, Saddam predicted "the
mother of all battles."
 
But the Iraqis were driven out of Kuwait. The 1991 war triggered uprisings among Iraq's Shiites, brutally crushed by Saddam, and the Kurds, who carved out a self-ruled area under U.S. and
British air cover.
 
In April 1990, Saddam hinted that he had secret super-weapons and declared: "By God, we will
make the fire eat up half of Israel." During the Gulf War he fired Scud missiles into Israel, and
during the Palestinian uprising a decade later he paid cash grants to families of suicide
bombers.
 
The U.N. sanctions remained in effect until his regime collapsed in 2003, devastating Iraq's
economy and impoverishing a people who had been among the most prosperous in the
Middle East.
The Sept. 11 terror attack on the U.S. focused attention on Saddam as a sponsor of terrorism.
His refusal to meet U.N. demands for full disclosure of his illegal weapons program provided a justification for war.
 
An American-led force invaded on March 20, 2003. Within three weeks, Iraq's army had collapsed.
 
Saddam was captured the following December.
 
As he went on trial in October 2005, his country engulfed in an anti-American insurgency, Saddam tried to use the proceeding to rail against the U.S. presence in Iraq in hopes of winning the
approval of history if not an acquittal. But as trial dragged on, his manner calmed as he realized
the inevitability of conviction and the death sentence that followed.
 
 



  Jabir ahmed posted 2 yrs ago

Well killin a 1000 to get 1.....


then i guess Bush should also be punished>....





  Ami Tex posted 2 yrs ago

TBT
 
"We watch these wars, destruction, deaths and declarations on TV. We voice an opinion based on the ideology that we are dependent. These events are a grim reminder on how people can become opiate with ideologies, dogmas and religions, whether to the right or left, whether it is Islam, Hinduism or Christianity."
 
If thinking people could have seen carnage in europe during world wars brought by tyrants Stalin & Hitler, they would have felt relieved that those wars indeed burried ideologies that such tyrants had forced on people there. 
 
A majority of free people who have a voice now in Iraq are rejoicing the end of a tyrant... who torched hundreds of helpless people for want of govering skills on his side. Every one knows how Sadam- sons and a coterie of his friends/supports around him had postponed destiny of majority of Iraqis by building scores of palaces for Saddam, hiding billions of oil revenues in foreign accounts instead of spending oil revenues on welfare of a majority of his people. Only a democracy can protect helpless poor in every country; Iraq should look forward to building one on a firmer foundation.
 
As to rejoicing at the death of Saddam... Americans are watching rejoicing in Dearborn, Michigan where there is a concentration of Iraqis who suffered persecution under Saddam regime.
 
I believe majority of muslims in India are Shia, not Sunny; they must be relieved that Shias & Kurds in Iraq will be safer now.
 



  TheBigThinkg Blog posted 2 yrs ago

Dear Justy,
Thanx for ur comments. No one escapes the result of their actions, including u and me.
 
Dear Boss 39651,
Thanx for ur comments.
 
Under the current situation, unless stability gets into Iraq and occupation forces withdraw,
recognition for the iraqi regime is going to be difficult.

So many 'opportunists' urged India to jump into 'coalition of the willing'. They wanted recognition of the Iraqi regime fast. But patience has proved right. We don't need to be tied to saddam. But when we tie up, it should be something that is beneficial to both Iraq and us.
 
Dear Swayamprava,
 
I do not think Saddam becomes a martyr. Some people may celebrate him to be a martyr now. How he is going to be seen would largely depend on which forces prevail over a period of time.
 
-TBT
 



  maddss123 posted 2 yrs ago

Antonio The so called "He" men ruling Iraq now feel that its time to show how mighty they are in hanging the ex-dictator like a common criminal. The ramification of such a act will show up sooner in such a society, where eye for an eye ,head for an head means justice. These barbaric tribes are used to public killing. Sooner we will realize, the Sunni’s do the same to some of the Shia ruler. But, it was horrible as per humanity to show, such events on video. regards





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